Gold & Silver Forum

Gold & Silver Forum (http://goldismoney.info/forums/index.php)
-   Survival Prep (http://goldismoney.info/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=141)
-   -   1 month food box (http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=295570)

Mantokir 08-27-2008 03:13 PM

1 month food box
 
I was going through all the threads here, and getting links/ writeups together and sorting em so I could put the whole list up here for new guys, and i came across a thread that mentioned something about putting 1 month of food in a computer tower sized box.

Since those boxes are about the same height as under my bed, and I have a good bit of room there, I was curious.

If you built a box to hold 1 months worth of food, what would you put in it? The size of the box doesn't matter but the smaller, the better for us with limited space.

Thanks
-Mantokir-

TLM 08-27-2008 03:25 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
Is this a bug out supply or a bug in?

I hope you currently have more than a months supply of food.
What is your climate?
If you are in a place that has cold winters, you will want to be heavier on the starches than a more temperate climate.

It makes me nervous thinking you don't have food.:shocked_ma:
Get started on this today, need a little more background.
Don't you have a pantry?

Codger 08-27-2008 03:33 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
I've got at most a week of food. No excuses, just to many things coming up beforehand. Not all of us can just put up a stockpile because we know we should. But we are working on it.

I don't know if 1 month of food could fit in that size box. It seems it would almost have to be freeze dried but I don't know.

Mantokir 08-27-2008 03:42 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TLM (Post 1257212)
Is this a bug out supply or a bug in?

I hope you currently have more than a months supply of food.
What is your climate?
If you are in a place that has cold winters, you will want to be heavier on the starches than a more temperate climate.

It makes me nervous thinking you don't have food.:shocked_ma:
Get started on this today, need a little more background.
Don't you have a pantry?


I'm about as close to the beginning of stocking up as a person can be. I came upon this website close to January and have been strapped for cash up till now, I'm barely starting to see spendable money now.

It would be a bug-in, since I'm in no position financially to go anywhere. It's also more just a food supply that doesn't require a fridge/freezer. Those are well stocked, as well as the pantry we do have.


Live in northeast Florida, and we might have a months worth of food, but I'm wanting to start getting stuff together that can last a while.

And I haven't let all the time go to waste as I have been through each and every thread on this board and have learned a lot, now I can finally start putting it to use. :-)

-Mantokir-

Mantokir 08-27-2008 03:44 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Codger (Post 1257233)
I've got at most a week of food. No excuses, just to many things coming up beforehand. Not all of us can just put up a stockpile because we know we should. But we are working on it.

I don't know if 1 month of food could fit in that size box. It seems it would almost have to be freeze dried but I don't know.

This is the writeup I found, this thread is just for ideas on switching it up as I'm sure you'd get tired of eating this all the time.


One month of food in a box

One 20 quart size powdered milk (4 pounds)
One 10 lb bag rice
Two 4 lb bags beans
Two 3 lb bags of macaroni
Three 13 ounce quick oats
Two 5 lb bags flour
One 8 ounce baking cocoa
One 4 lb bag of sugar
One 10 oz baking powder
One 8 oz baking soda
One 4 lb jar of peanut butter
One 1 qt bottle of syrup
30 miscellaneous cans (soups, vegetables, chili, etc.)
One bottle hot sauce
One bottle soy sauce
9 miscellaneous spice bottles
2 vitamin bottles
One 4 ounce bottle of vanilla extract
One 4 ounce bottle of yeast
One 16 oz bottle of jalape�o peppers
One copy Better Times Cookbook and Almanac of Useful Information for Poor People

I found a 23 inches by 21 inches by 10 inches computer box, and all of above food fit into the box, with the lid folding flat and would fit underneath a bed or table. . The above would provide the following daily servings: (for one person)
2-1/2 cups milk
1-1/2 cups cooked rice
1-1/2 cups cooked beans
1-1/2 cups cooked macaroni
1 cup cooked oats
1 cup flour
4 Tbs. peanut butter
1 miscellaneous can of food
Plus daily sugar and spice

I am not in the business of giving nutritional advice, but it seems that if a half gallon or so of cooking oil, another can per day and a serving of fruit juice (equivalent of another can) are added, which wouldn't fit in this space, you'd be all right for a month. Depending on the assortment of cans, a variety of stuff can be made from these ingredients, including cinnamon rolls, oatmeal cookies, peanut butter cookies, tuna casserole, etc.

This box would fit under my bed.

Fullpower 08-27-2008 04:18 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
how about 30 cliff bars, 30 packets of instant oatmeal, 30 cans of tuna and a few boxes of pilot crackers and a small jar of mayo?
you could try for more variety, but that would keep you alive just fine.

TLM 08-27-2008 04:51 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
That list is obviously for someone that knows how to bake, make bread etc.
If the power was out and you didn't have a way to cook/bake, a lot of those things would be pretty useless.

I would suggest searching the internet for simple recipes of things you might like and start storing those ingredients.

I love lentils, they're cheap, high in protien, low in fat and take less energy to cook than most any other bean.
Search for recipes.
Rice is cheap and pasta, sugar, boxes of potatoe flakes.
Small pasta takes up less space, small macaroni's, orzo for soup etc.
Dried spices take up little space but can really keep you from getting burned out on the same taste.
Peanut butter lasts a long time.
Chicken and beef bullion cubes.

Look at the store sale papers every week and pick up a few things every
week that you might like that doesn't take up much space and has a relatively long shelf life... in a couple of months you will have plenty of extra.

God's Peace
TLM

j-son 08-27-2008 04:52 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
http://beprepared.com/product.asp?pn=FN%20M900

or

http://beprepared.com/product.asp_Q_...t)+Food+Supply



1 mos supply already packaged and ready to be bought

Mantokir 08-28-2008 08:49 AM

Re: 1 month food box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TLM (Post 1257367)
That list is obviously for someone that knows how to bake, make bread etc.
If the power was out and you didn't have a way to cook/bake, a lot of those things would be pretty useless.

I would suggest searching the internet for simple recipes of things you might like and start storing those ingredients.

I love lentils, they're cheap, high in protien, low in fat and take less energy to cook than most any other bean.
Search for recipes.
Rice is cheap and pasta, sugar, boxes of potatoe flakes.
Small pasta takes up less space, small macaroni's, orzo for soup etc.
Dried spices take up little space but can really keep you from getting burned out on the same taste.
Peanut butter lasts a long time.
Chicken and beef bullion cubes.

Look at the store sale papers every week and pick up a few things every
week that you might like that doesn't take up much space and has a relatively long shelf life... in a couple of months you will have plenty of extra.

God's Peace
TLM

The recipe idea is a good, look em up and get a months worth of ideas, by the items and throw it all in a box together.

Mantokir 08-28-2008 08:50 AM

Re: 1 month food box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j-son (Post 1257371)

300 bucks???

I'm not that far from broke yet... :-)

madfranks 08-28-2008 09:54 AM

Re: 1 month food box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fullpower (Post 1257303)
how about 30 cliff bars, 30 packets of instant oatmeal, 30 cans of tuna and a few boxes of pilot crackers and a small jar of mayo?
you could try for more variety, but that would keep you alive just fine.

Just don't put the mayo in the computer box and hide under your bed! :tongue_ma:

GOLD DUCK 08-28-2008 09:58 AM

Re: 1 month food box
 
QWAK,Get 4 of thease boxes fill them up --put one under each corner of your bed. Then you could have over a 4 month supply that will last a long time and enough room under the bed (14.5 ") for you to hide!:D You also got a cool PLATFORM BED! :s9:

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=459651

You can buy more boxes and have a years suply too but no place to hide!:hahaha::haha::s9:

With doing THIS you got "Shelter from the STORM" ;)


the DUCK

Mantokir 08-28-2008 10:17 AM

Re: 1 month food box
 
Duck, thank you for those boxes, being waterproof might come in handy in florida :-)

I also have enough room under my bed to build a fort, it sits a good 2 - 2 and a half feet off the ground :-)

This thread is giving me some good ideas. Thanks everyone.

aybesee123 08-28-2008 10:55 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
Start with beans, rice and canned vegetables...you can work up from there.

GOLD DUCK 08-29-2008 03:28 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
QWAK,Just got back from walmart,got 40 lb. of rice,40 lb beans and 40lb. sugar, plust other stuff. The new boxes will hold 50 lb. of rice or beans with a little space left over and 60 lb. of sugar!:s9:

Not too heavy for one person to move but would not want a biger box!:wink:

the DUCK

Saul Mine 08-29-2008 05:47 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
Store what you eat. Eat what you store.

Get a box of the desired size and put whatever groceries you have in it. Only prepare meals from what's in the box. When you use something out of the box, buy a replacement and put it in the box. If you need something that's not in the box, get two, eat one and put the other in the box. At the end of the month, remove from the box anything you haven't used. What is left is a month's supply of food, a copy of everything you have eaten in the preceding month.

Do the same for your large collection: buy things on sale and put them at the back of the shelf. Fix meals from stuff at the front of the shelf. As you use condiments and spices, notice whether it's time to get more. Occasionally check expiration dates to be sure nothing sits longer than it should.

jamesfrancisco 08-29-2008 06:32 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
This weekend I'm going to my BO place to lay foundations for my generator - nothing fancy, it pulls about 12Kw and we use about 5 max. Main worry is theft, even though it needs 4 strong men and a boat to take it away. So I'm laying a block of readymixed crap, probably 3 tonnes, then watering it.
Once the genny is in, I'll lay another 3 tonnes of proper mixed concrete with the genny tied down with rebar. Lets see you get that in your boat and motor over to the mainland, haha.

Saul Mine 08-29-2008 10:06 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
And furthermore!

Can you actually live on your so-called storage food? Does it taste like food? Do you know how to cook it? Is it a major change of diet? I have two experiences to share with you.

1. When I first got interested in storing food, I didn't know much and had no friends who had ever thought about any such thing. I looked in the phone book and by golly there was actually a storage food store listed! It was Neolife. I bought several cases. Some time later I found myself in a missionary group in a strange town with three strangers assigned to me to try to found a church. Since none of us had jobs we had to live on my storage food for a while. After three meals of that stuff we all felt like we would really rather starve. It wasn't bad, it was just laced with odd things that jangled the taste buds but became hard to take real fast. The dried fruits and veggies were ok but variety was poor and you don't want to live very long on dried fruits and veggies either. What you need is familiar foods.

2. In 2001 I was hanging out on a prep forum and "beans and rice" got mentioned frequently, sort of a cliché for eating cheaply. I wondered if that were actually possible, since some forumites take such things literally. So I tried living on beans and rice for, oh, about three days. Then I noticed a suspicious feeling of fullness. It occurred to me that I hadn't had a bowel movement in, oh, about three days. It seems that beans and rice can get awfully hard and dry as they move through the pipes. I'll spare you the details of that experience. Let's just say it took some time, it hurt, and the outcome was impressive. You had darned well better test everything you plan to use before you need to use it.

StackerKen 08-29-2008 10:53 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aybesee123 (Post 1259657)
Start with beans, rice and canned vegetables...you can work up from there.

thats what I did..

and when ever soup is on sale I buy More...

I have lost count of how many cans of soup we have....100's though

edit; Oh and lots of tuna too.

GOLD DUCK 08-29-2008 11:16 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
QWAK,Saul Mine,Some good insights and well worth concideration.

In Nam I had a problem waring my uniform and the warrent officer told the mess sargent I was not to be allowed to eat in the mess hall in less I was in uniform. I began living on peanut butter and Ritz crackers I could buy at the PX. When I got tired of that I bought caned tuna,bread in cans,miracal whip,and picklel relish and started making "Tuna salid sanwniches"!:D

With in a month I was selling sanwhiches ,beer and soda out of my hooch room to the grunts and making more than double my military pay! :s9:

A gradgual change to beans and rice because that is the only food would work out better I expect than a total change over night.

Some caned ham and dried split peas make a good soup and can also be lived on for a long time.

Some MREs and freeze dried food and some caned vegies and fruit and I think your constipation problem would not have been so bad.:wink:

Often stress alone is enough to throw your system in to a state of shal we say "GO/NO GO":wink::hahaha::s10::yes:

the DUCK

Lou337 08-30-2008 01:00 AM

Re: 1 month food box
 
Don't forget to buy some peptobismol. That goes for all of you! ;)

Igotyour6 09-03-2008 08:52 PM

Re: 1 month food box
 
spam too, they have turkey spam now, just got a load of that the other day, it has really been on sale lately, they are really trying to get a better image and reach a lot of new eaters.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:06 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright = None use it and Link to GIM